white-washed asian girls that reject asian men in the states

That figure is now up to 23/39, or 59%.

Captainsoap, there's no problem cutting aside the "PC" so long as you are able to simultaneously turn on your brain. Most people aren't capable of doing this, thus the function of PC.

Obviously, even you being the anglophile that you are, have met white people who you dislike. You probably find x% of Asian girls quite attractive as well.

Keep your causality on point, lest you be swept away by the frailties of the commoner's logic.

desperate_stalker wrote: I guess many asian male people also think for themselves that white girls are generally more attracted to other races than asian, which shrinks their confidence even b4 getting to know the person...

While it's easy to accuse AM of falling into this trap, one can hardly fault them given overwhelming statistics pointing to their unattractiveness ( blog.okcupid.com/ind...write-you-back/ ). A random individual, after getting rejected by the same group repeatedly, starts to generalize his experiences as a trend. Unless that person is extremely persistent, lucky enough to find someone open-minded, or just plain doesn't care, he's going to be discouraged enough to not bother asking anyone out from that group.

Key points from the study, which I caution may be US-centric:

"White women prefer white men to the exclusion of everyone else—and Asian and Hispanic women prefer them even more exclusively."

54% of white females strongly prefer to date someone of her own ethnicity. This is about 2x as high as the average for other females.

Asian and Pacific-Islander females tied as being the most open to males outside her ethnicity (at 82%).

Actually, according to OKTrends, "Our experiment tells us that, given equal numbers, Asians would actually overwhelming prefer to message other Asians."

This one takes the cake though: "Asians are the most desired racial group in the country."

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So the conclusion you are drawing is quite incorrect. The truth is, Asian-Americans, who are the Asian users of OKCupid primarily, are far more open-minded than their white counterparts. But they still strongly prefer other Asians in general. Ouch.

This whole OKTrends article casted white people in a "non-supreme" light, which caused their largely white user base to bitch, moan, and revealed their huge race insecurities. Guess how OKTrends responded. Click the title link to see for yourself. LOL.

Btw, aside from my posts, the troll rate is this thread is above 60%. Why do all the "Asian-bashing" threads consist of nonstop trolling, far and above the average rate of other posts in this forum?

I disagree with the methods used in the article you site. Extrapolating a small sample set and assuming that current inter-group interaction rates remain constant is a false premise. Note that the % message rate above population prevalence is highest for Asians, then blacks, then hispanics, then whites. This is a reflection of sheer #s. Asians are the least numerous group, so the intra-group message rates are higher than inter-group message rates. You can't take the current rates for a small size and generalize that to a larger group. I would expect the message rates to approach that of whites if Asians become more numerous.

Furthermore, the article you site is measuring messaging, in terms of sheer #s and per capita. Substituting that as a measure of desirability for romantic relationships is false equivalence. Heck, it's not even measuring reply rates, which my article studies. You can send out all the messages you want, but if few people reply to you and even fewer are willing to date you, it means nothing. I postulate that people are more willing to message individuals of another race/ethnicity even if they aren't willing to date because it's polite/respectful/safer. It could even be a sign of desperation. If you're not getting good hit rates, you're likely to try hitting more often.

For a more rigourous study, see: home.uchicago.edu/~g...ing-Sorting.pdf
The relevant take home point from that article is that by applying ranked-pairing algorithms, all Asian participants were unmatched, meaning that female participants consistently rated them poorly. See the note at the bottom of page 160.

Btw, my interest in this subject is purely academic. I want to understand the reasons behind the dating discrepancy and what can be done to change perceptions. That hardly constitutes trolling.

I'm glad that you take issue with OKTrends' methods when they conclude that "Asians are the most desired racial group in the country" but agree with them when they suggest something that vaguely leaves open the possibility that the opposite is true. All I know is that my OKCupid inbox is overflowing.

Nice weather in Los Angeles today. My goodness. Not too hot, clear sunny skies.

white washed asian girls that reject asian men?

those are the only kinds of asian girls i've met.

sad but true never thought i'd see the day a girl would reject/look down on men her own race, but I guess I spoke too soon.

chungkingexpress wrote: white washed asian girls that reject asian men?

those are the only kinds of asian girls i've met.

sad but true never thought i'd see the day a girl would reject/look down on men her own race, but I guess I spoke too soon.

And you don't reject average looking Asian girls?

I'd date any race. Don't think the reason why I'm here is only for white girls. White girls are great but they're NOT all that.

The original poster has some valid points. I've spent my entire life in the US and there definitely is some weird gender strife going on between suburban Asian-American women and men. Guys and girls from Asia or grew up FOB neighborhoods (Flushing, NY for example) generally don't exhibit this kind of behavior (i.e. they act normally and amicably around each other). Yes, I have heard many Asian-American women talk shit (particularly to non-Asians) and spread stereotypes about Asian guys. Yes, I have heard many Asian-American women say how they'll never date an Asian guy. That being said...

Would you ever be attracted to a girl (of any race) who has that kind of attitude? Would you even care what she thought of you? I didn't think so.

There's a lot of fucked up shit that people say in this world. The thing is, if you (as a guy) focus on this kind of negative stuff, it will do nothing but hurt your own attractiveness. Negativity and whining (without corrective action at the very least) is very unattractive. Remember, the ball is always in your court. It's about the qualities YOU find attractive, not the other way around. The worst question you can ask yourself is, "Am I her type?

Are you a product of your environment or is your environment a product of you?

badasianrolemodel wrote: The original poster has some valid points. I've spent my entire life in the US and there definitely is some weird gender strife going on between suburban Asian-American women and men. Guys and girls from Asia or grew up FOB neighborhoods (Flushing, NY for example) generally don't exhibit this kind of behavior (i.e. they act normally and amicably around each other). Yes, I have heard many Asian-American women talk shit (particularly to non-Asians) and spread stereotypes about Asian guys. Yes, I have heard many Asian-American women say how they'll never date an Asian guy. That being said...

Would you ever be attracted to a girl (of any race) who has that kind of attitude? Would you even care what she thought of you? I didn't think so.

There's a lot of fucked up shit that people say in this world. The thing is, if you (as a guy) focus on this kind of negative stuff, it will do nothing but hurt your own attractiveness. Negativity and whining (without corrective action at the very least) is very unattractive. Remember, the ball is always in your court. It's about the qualities YOU find attractive, not the other way around. The worst question you can ask yourself is, "Am I her type?

Are you a product of your environment or is your environment a product of you?

I like the cut of your jib.

That being said, I find that although it's true that FOBs tend to associate with their own kind, and the NA-ized Asians tend to stick with other races, but I have NA-ized Asian friends and it's not as though we hate on the FOBs (well we do but everyone does), it's that we tend to associate with people who are similar to ourselves.

Sure, there are always exceptions to this case but from my experience, White-washed (WW) Asians tend to be more open to other people as the FOB types seem to be more closed minded and traditional. A WW Asian girl might reject a FOB Asian man, but that doesn't necessarily mean she rejects an WW Asian male.

And in most cases, you are the product of your environment.